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JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
June/20/2012 UPDATE ON LETTER RECEIVED ON SCAMMER CON. Please view the whole file on my other site at: franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com under #5 Letters and complaints or more info at #8 in this site under #8 Scammer's and Tactics.
FEBRUARY 12/2012: UPDATE:
Please check under section #8 for many of these false and misleading ads. this is only because of the response in a letter outlining the Kijiji ID#'s on ads posted.
THIS STORY NOW LISTED ON SECTION #8 OF THIS SITE FOR AUGUST 11TH and 15th/2012 SCAMMER UPDATES UNDER SCAMMERS and TACTICS.
HE IS AT IT AGAIN THANKS TO MORE SLOPPY AND CAREFREE ADS PLACED ON KIJIJI. WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE LEARN THAT HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMMON CROOK? . THIS PAST WEEK, ARLAND HAS SCREWED OVER ANOTHER 5 HRM RESIDENTS BY SELLING TRASH SHORT CORDED WOOD. HE IS A FRAUD AND PLEASE GO TO SECTION #8 FOR THE LATEST UPDATES.
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JUNE/30/2012 added update in BLUE in the 1st 2 paragraphs.
JUNE/22/2012
LATEST SCAMMER UPDATE :
Please note the picture below in yellow. This is the notorious one advertising on light poles and wherever from Truro to and thru HRM. ****To add more info, Mr. Gave.......you amaze me. People are getting smarter. You can change all the phone numbers you want, add signs to all the poles in the Province, no matter, you and your cohorts are still the crooked wood scammers and will always be that. I delivered a load of Maple Hardwood to Mount Uniacke last night and now this sign below is also appearing on power poles in that area. PEOPLE....SIMPLY BEWARE. Whether the name Premium, Best Buy or Bargain Firewood, MAKE SURE YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PERSON OR BUSINESS YOU ARE PLANNING TO TRUST and ARE BUYING FROM!
Finally Kijiji kicked him off of the site for the present time and many of us hope it is for good. ****So you know, a customer informed me as of Friday the 29th he is operating under several new CELL PHONE NUMBERS and other people's names and is presently PLACING ADS ON KIJIJI through these names. At the time when he was kicked off of Kijiji, he had 31 WOOD FOR SALE ADS POSTED ON THE FIRST 4 PAGES under many names and close to 10 phone numbers. Also, another 28 ads posted other ways on Kijiji in relation to wood and assorted junk as gimmicks to occupy the Kijiji pages as if he owned them. Through a combination of friends, false addresses; and most posted as if coming from the Barrington Street area in the middle of Halifax itself. I do suggest it will be a re-grouping with other friends to once again continue posting. However, be careful.
Finally Kijiji kicked him off of the site for the present time and many of us hope it is for good. ****So you know, a customer informed me as of Friday the 29th he is operating under several new CELL PHONE NUMBERS and other people's names and is presently PLACING ADS ON KIJIJI through these names. At the time when he was kicked off of Kijiji, he had 31 WOOD FOR SALE ADS POSTED ON THE FIRST 4 PAGES under many names and close to 10 phone numbers. Also, another 28 ads posted other ways on Kijiji in relation to wood and assorted junk as gimmicks to occupy the Kijiji pages as if he owned them. Through a combination of friends, false addresses; and most posted as if coming from the Barrington Street area in the middle of Halifax itself. I do suggest it will be a re-grouping with other friends to once again continue posting. However, be careful.
SO ------ be warned that the Con is still on and the Scammer is looking for more targets. DON'T FALL FOR THE GIMMICKS. DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE BUYING FROM ANYONE. Do check the Registry of Firewood Vendors for your own protection. Search the Better Business Bureau site for answers and do not be afraid to call them on anyone. Also, check the Registry of Joint Stock Companies (all under the Province of Nova Scotia) to see if the names are legal or not. And do not BUY FROM ANYONE without a traceable address or phone number. Ask questions, get phone numbers, working addresses, and best of all, if is IS NOT ON PAPER before hand, you WILL NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON when you get burned.
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
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Read this website before buying wood from Kijiji. There is one seller posing as many!
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
Click your browser back arrow to return here after viewing Video.
For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dartmouth , NS B3B 1X8 , Canada
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JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
*******This area will be for the pictures to be posted later.******
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http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
Click your browser back arrow to return here after viewing Video.
For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dartmouth , NS B3B 1X8 , Canada
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JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
*******This area will be for the pictures to be posted later.******
//////// And if you want to contact Ms. L direct, we just maybe able to make that possible.
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Read this website before buying wood from Kijiji. There is one seller posing as many!
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dartmouth , NS B3B 1X8 , Canada
View map
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
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Read this website before buying wood from Kijiji. There is one seller posing as many!
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dartmouth , NS B3B 1X8 , Canada
View map
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
**********************
PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
**********************
From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
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http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
Click your browser back arrow to return here after viewing Video.
For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dartmouth , NS B3B 1X8 , Canada
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JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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PLEASE READ THE STORY by Mrs. Sands below the green and blue insert: It could save you money.
Please note: as requested, we have removed the proper name of the persons and Email address, and all contacts as asked. This is my policy and will remain my policy until enough people come forward in hopes of stopping this WELL KNOWN SCAMMER.
August 11th/2012.
This piece of work below written by Ms. L., is (Arland Gave) at what he does best clearly defined in my personal opinion as the work of a Infantile Neanderthal at its worst. He has screwed yet another HRM person over. That is the fifth one who has contacted me this week from August 03/2012 up until this was printed. Better yet, I will be posting this couple's complete story along with pictures of the truck that delivered and the current plate number on the truck REGISTERED to ARLAND GAVE and selling and delivering under one of his fake names. I am not a miracle worker, but seriously, people you have to read my website if you want to keep from getting burned by this idiot.
He operates under a new series of names almost weekly now, changing phone numbers from time to time and having others post ads for him through different connecting computer IP's and presently is operating 30 plus ads on Kijiji under over a dozen fictitious names and false addresses. Kijiji DOES NOT CARE. The Police is little HELP. The BBB has no power. As for Measurement Canada, their hands are somewhat tied, whereas this is a problem that must be dealt with on the local Provincial level. They can measure the loads delivered and give you a statement. But what good is that when you have nowhere to turn? The Crown Prosecutor cares less and the Province of NOVA SCOTIA NEEDS TO set regulations in place to protect YOU, the CONSUMER, from people like Arland Gave and what he does. On top of that, the Province needs to strictly ENFORCE REGULATIONS worse than the regulated gas and oil mess that we have until the scammers and part time wood associates are under control, and you the consumer are safely protected.
The is a BBB report but presently it is unavailable. I am hoping to have it up and on here as soon as possible. Aside from that, I am hoping to have the full story from Ms. L and pictures in the week of the trash and amount he delivered. However, ordering two cords of wood and getting 1.06 cords as Measurement Canada measured clearly tells the story and shows the trash delivered to people while he continues to use WOOD PICTURES from other sites, advertising locals and ads all across Canada and the U.S. Trust me, the wood you see in these Kijiji ads is not his. Before buying from ANYONE, take a moment and do your homework. Find the location and see the wood at his place before making the deal. The request and trip could just keep this below from happening to you.
Some new CON NAMES and fictitious names in the market place are:
Excellent Firewood (friggin' joke)
Premium Firewood (bigger laugh)
Adams Firewood (more out of province pictures to fool you)
Frank's Best Buy Firewood (my old name that he stole and registered)
Absolute Firewood (this one is out there)
Woody's Firewood (and associated ad-ons to the name)
Willie's Firewood
Beacon's Firewood and the list goes on with people using their own web IP's to help him as well as the people who work for and with him. Remember, HE IS NOT REPUTABLE. Read the story by Ms. L. for one.
There are many more names on Kijiji, but understand.....most of them are advertised without names or phone numbers and a message to contact them with a phone number and they will call (screw you) you back because he does not want anyone to know he lives at the boarded up compound on BISSETT ROAD. As for the phone numbers, presently he is using several new ones as well as the old ones. SIMPLY PUT......be darned careful or you too will get shafted if you haven't been already.
And the truck was a Red and White Ford Sterling Series truck with dump body in the 1990's bracket. This truck delivered to Ms. L bearing a yellow commercial licence plate number 35-142-D. The truck officially is registered IN THE PROVINCE OF N.S. to ARLAND GAVE OF 2254 COW BAY ROAD. This is the same person plastering telephone and light poles with the placard listed directly below. It should read, 'I AM A CROOK AND I SELL GARBAGE WOOD. I will LIE LIKE HELL TO STEAL YOUR MONEY and SCAM YOU!'
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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From: Mrs. L. B. Sands
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Sent: August-15-12 1:23 PM
To: Frank Rhyno
Subject: Timeline
Hi Frank,
Here is my story. I attached all my documents for a complete source. As you know, I wish my name not be on the website but I hope this warns others and helps stop that Bastard :)
The last three attachments show his last ad under the "Woody" name ( a very poor ad that that) and the ads he placed to harass me.
LBS
August 2012
In April of this year my husband and I began looking for firewood to have for next winter. As first time buyers we had no reference, but knew of the local crook on Bissett Rd Cow Bay
I frequently shop online, with EBay, Amazon, and most of all Kijiji. I have always done my homework on a seller as far as available info, previous ads, how many ads, spelling, and grammar, whatever I can use to determine if I want to deal with the seller. Never have I had an issue until this transaction.
I searched Kijiji for a few weeks, called a few sellers, watched the ads, searched BBB with some phone numbers I saw, and in May, I finally ordered 2 cord of cut split and delivered from “Woody Wood” in Jeddore@ 403-2219 for $440. I figured he was close to home and we like to buy local, I spoke with him twice before ordering, and BBB had no complaint on that number.
It came at dusk and was dumped off a closed sided red and white truck; he gave us a generic receipt for $440 for 2 bins full. What we saw in the morning was a pile of wet, assorted hardwood in various lengths, mixed with dirt, loose bark and sticks like it had been scraped off the bottom of a camp yard. We proceeded to pile it over the next few days, banging the dirt off each piece, and realized we were shorted.
I placed the first call to “Woody Wood” on May 26th. He was cordial and said it was the last delivery that day and he would contact the driver. We hoped it was an error and he would make good.
May 29th the second call. We were told the driver had the truck working in the woods and he would have him contact us.
June 3rd we sighted the truck on the #7 highway.
June 5th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left a voice message.
June 11th we reached “Woody” again. He gave more apologies on the drivers’ behalf, and would get after him to call us.
June 14th I called Erica Garnier of Measurement Canada and left another voice message.
June 18th I spoke with Erica, she had no record of the name and number I was dealing with. I emailed her a copy of the receipt he gave us, and booked to have someone come and measure our wood.
June 26th Andy Faulkner arrived and measured our wood at 1.04 cords. He said we would get a letter with his findings “to do with what we will”.
We continued to call “Woody” a few more times until he started hanging up on us July 21st. After that the number was out of service and the last ad he had on Kijiji under that number was placed on June 15th. He disappeared.
On August 8th we saw the truck at a corner store. I took pictures and recorded the plate # 35-142-D
On August 9th I placed a Kijiji ad with the pictures and received many emails with lots of information on who I was really dealing with….the crook from Bissett Rd
He saw my Kijiji ad as well, and in retaliation placed false ads ( 10 of them) with my phone number and address so we would get harassing phone calls all hours of the day and night. I reported this to the RCMP on August 10th, 2012 who told me they could speak to him but these cases were almost impossible to prove. They didn’t seem eager to pursue the matter, and advised me to think about it and see if he persisted.
So, we could take him to small claims court at a cost of $91.47 to file, plus costs to have him served, and any other costs that pop up. I’m sure we would win, and the court would order him to pay us the costs. I am also sure he’s not the type to say "yes your Honour, here is the money". We would have to continue the fight and have Arland Gave a part of our life for more time than he deserves.
At the least, I would hope the BBB, Measurement Canada, and Kijiji will post real warnings, highly visible not buried in forums, with descriptions (such as plate #) and a link to Frank Rhyno’s website. Kijiji is allowing these false ads to be placed with bogus names and information, with the intention of scamming their users. They should somehow be accountable.
At this point, after paying $440 for 1.04 cord of wood the best I can do is give Arland Gave a paper cut with that letter from Measurement Canada.
Mr. & Mrs. Sands
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Read this website before buying wood from Kijiji. There is one seller posing as many!
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
http://frankrhynosvalleyfirewood.blogspot.ca/
The names and numbers in the picture change frequently but he is Arland Gave and still the same crook living on Bissett Road and operating out of a dozen different addresses not traceable because they are fake.
JUNE 22/2102 update ON the NOTORIOUS CON AND SCAMMER.
PLEASE WATCH FOR THE YELLOW SIGNS and any other BEARING THIS KIND OF MESSAGE ABOUT WOOD FOR SALE. Do not be fooled by this fellow. Presently he has been removed from Kijiji. Full details on my home page.
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JUNE 21/2012 INFORMATION UPDATE ON CORDAGE CARRIED BY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT IS SIMPLE. TO CUBE A TRUCK, TRAILER or COMPARTMENT ON ANY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION FOR WOOD, MEASURE THE LENGTH MULTIPLIED BY THE WIDTH MULTIPLIED BY THE DEPTH OR HEIGHT. (example---- A TRUCK BOX OF 8 FEET WIDE BY 4 FEET HIGH BY 12 FEET LONG WILL CUBE OUT AT 384 CUBIC FEET. TO CALCULATE THAT INTO CORDAGE BASED ON CUBIC CORD MEASUREMENT ON LOOSE TOSSED OR LOADED WOOD YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY A LOOSE CORD OF 168 CUBIC FEET TO EQUAL 2.2857 PILED CORDS AT 128 CUBIC FEET EACH. STOP THE SCAMMERS AND CON ARTISTS BY LEARNING HOW THEY ARE BEATING YOU WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING YOU WOOD. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE END OF THIS SECTION TO THE PROPER SIZE OF THE UNIT. IF IT IS NOT THERE, USE THE MEASUREMENTS SUPPLIED ABOVE AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WITH THE CORRECT MEASUREMENTS OF THE DELIVERING UNIT. FOR YOUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION, MEASURE THE BOX BEFORE IT IS DUMPED. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO INSURE CLOSE TO CORRECT MEASUREMENT UNLESS FLOOR PLATFORMING, CORNERING IN THE BOX OR SOME OTHER TRICK HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE LOAD.
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JUNE 20/2012 UPDATE on letter received pertaining to a Con Scammer who the consumer became suspicious of. Please refer to section #5 of my other site : franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com.
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Consumer awareness has been merely touched on by the report on the CBC Interview I did on February 24th/2012, that aired on the CBC news that night. The Video info is below. To cover this properly, it would have taken 10 minutes or more. However, the two minute and 17 second clip will actually give you the idea of what can happen when you DO NOT purchase wood from proper and honest entrepreneurs.
It will now be the plan for this section to investigate scamming complaints on stunts pulled, tricks and scams that have been perpetrated people, information on untruths posted to attract business by misleading info in ads, and other means.
For the record, the CBC interview is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to people being scammed by some of the tricks that have been pulled over the years. I will be making an attempt to completely disclose all that I both am privy to, and know; through having a few pulled on me, as well as others thru correspondence and research.
I would like to also let you know there is a 15 second commercial at the beginning. You can forward past it, however.....you are better off just watching it for less aggravation.
Click the link below to see.
Click your browser back arrow to return here after viewing Video.
For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
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For Further info, please visit one of the links below or go to:
http://www.novascotiafirewood.ca
NOVA SCOTIA FIREWOOD
CONSUMER INFORMATION
In the terminology of short cording, improper cording and trick cording, it is important to understand THAT NOT ALL SUPPLIERS ARE GUILTY OF THIS PROC
JUNE 21/2012:
INFORMATION UPDATE ON TRUCK AND TRAILER SIZES AND THE AMOUNT OF WOOD THAT CAN BE PROPERLY LOADED AND CORDED BASED ON INSIDE MEASUREMENTS OF THE UNIT WITH A SCHEDULE OF TRUCK BOX AND TRAILER SIZES. THIS SECTION WILL BE DONE ON SECTION #8 UNDER SCAMMERS & TACTICS WHEREAS I FEEL IT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE INFORMATION. IT IS PRESENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE 30TH OF JUNE.
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June/20/2012 UPDATE ON LETTER RECEIVED ON SCAMMER CON. Please view the whole file on my other site at: franksbestbuyfirewood.blogspot.com under #5 Letters and complaints or more info at #8 in this site under #8 Scammer's and Tactics.
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June/03/2012 UPDATE ON LETTER RECEIVED in reference to a scam just pulled off by one of the Advertisers on Kijiji. Please forward to the Comment and Discussion Section #9 or to The Wood Sheriff Report section #10.
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June/03/2012 UPDATE on references to the HAKKI 1X37 Wood Processor sold by a dealer here in Nova Scotia and purchased by me in Nova Scotia referencing the safety hazards and flaws experienced on this machine. Please go to Wood Sheriff's Report on Section #10. It is both truthful and very informative for anyone considering buying one of these pieces of over-rated JUNK!
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June/03/2012 UPDATE on references to the HAKKI 1X37 Wood Processor sold by a dealer here in Nova Scotia and purchased by me in Nova Scotia referencing the safety hazards and flaws experienced on this machine. Please go to Wood Sheriff's Report on Section #10. It is both truthful and very informative for anyone considering buying one of these pieces of over-rated JUNK!
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MAY 02/2012 UPDATE: As for the picture below....... a little further down, well....it is me, and I am not as pretty as the tractors. However; I do tell it as it is and make an effort to give my all to the wood and telling the truth. In my absence in the past TWO MONTHS, I now belong to the Registered Firewood Vendors Association of Nova Scotia and have a unaccredited A- rating with the BBB. Whereas I have NOT BEEN OPERATING long enough under the new name, it appears this BBB rating will not change for a year. However, there are no complaints and have not been any complaints levied. Nonetheless, for your personal wood buying protection, you should seek sources that are both reliable and from people who really know their product and what they are speaking about.
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I would like to draw your attention to the section directly below this one that has now been added and completed. However, for direct info on me and the site, please feel free to skip it and scroll down below to the section DATED: May/02/2012 for the original beginning to the home page. However, the sections below are very informative and have been brought about by a series of questions submitted in the past three weeks.
Thank you for your patience.
Frank
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May/25th/2012: The following addition is now completed. Whereas it is a bit of history to the actual beginning of the SALE of WOOD, Measurements of Wood and how the SCAMMER PROCESS BEGAN, it may be of interest to actually read through this section. If you do, it will and can be helpful in avoiding some of the issues and problems that many people have suffered in the HRM area of Nova Scotia in past years. Sadly, many of these issues have been created by several unscrupulous persons using every means of advertisement possible to camouflage their business practices, themselves, and the manner in which they operate. Many still operate through a series of 6 to 12 names which are not legal names and have no forwarding addresses or ways to be found. Your best solution for protection is to BEWARE of whom you are communicating with, by checking them out on the Nova Scotia Registry of Firewood Vendors Association site under the Province of Nova Scotia, Better Business Bureau site in Nova Scotia, The Registry of Joint Stock Companies of Nova Scotia, and your local Police Departments before entering into any transaction. Remember, if they are legitimate, they, and all addresses and phone numbers will be listed with contact persons, names and proper addresses for follow up, as well as their credibility records. If not, you have been warned. Remember, going to the police after the fact will not help.
May/25th/2012: The following addition is now completed. Whereas it is a bit of history to the actual beginning of the SALE of WOOD, Measurements of Wood and how the SCAMMER PROCESS BEGAN, it may be of interest to actually read through this section. If you do, it will and can be helpful in avoiding some of the issues and problems that many people have suffered in the HRM area of Nova Scotia in past years. Sadly, many of these issues have been created by several unscrupulous persons using every means of advertisement possible to camouflage their business practices, themselves, and the manner in which they operate. Many still operate through a series of 6 to 12 names which are not legal names and have no forwarding addresses or ways to be found. Your best solution for protection is to BEWARE of whom you are communicating with, by checking them out on the Nova Scotia Registry of Firewood Vendors Association site under the Province of Nova Scotia, Better Business Bureau site in Nova Scotia, The Registry of Joint Stock Companies of Nova Scotia, and your local Police Departments before entering into any transaction. Remember, if they are legitimate, they, and all addresses and phone numbers will be listed with contact persons, names and proper addresses for follow up, as well as their credibility records. If not, you have been warned. Remember, going to the police after the fact will not help.
FEBRUARY 12/2012: UPDATE:
Please check under section #8 for many of these false and misleading ads. this is only because of the response in a letter outlining the Kijiji ID#'s on ads posted.
